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Track twenty-six, unit twelve, come rain or shine

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[MULHER UM]

The Amazon is huge, it's twice the size of India and stretches across eight countries, but most of it is in Brazil so that's where we're focusing in on.

[HOMEM]

Manuela Andreoni is a rainforest investigations fellow at the Pulitzer Center. She covers the Amazon for the New York Times.

[MULHER DOIS]

The Amazon has roughly like twenty million people, so that's like ten% of the Brazilian population. Most Brazilian people live in urban areas in the southeastern region, so the Amazon is like a far away image for most Brazilians. And even like rich Brazilians who have the ability to travel, I mean in my experience people talk more about going to New York you know when they have the money that going to see the Amazon because while there is tourism there it's hard to get there.

[HOMEM]

Easier to get to New York from say Sao Paulo than it is to get to the Amazon?

[MULHER DOIS]

To some areas for sure because you take a plane, you'll take I think five hours to go to Manaus, for example which is the biggest city and then you what take a boat and be hours on a boat or days on a boat, depending on where you're going. Or take like a single engine plane and good luck to you.